Monthly Archives: July 2013

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SEFSD MEMBERSHIP FORM FOR RENEWALS ONLY

Welcome to the Silent Electric Flyers’

 

 

Quick Online Membership Renewal

 

 

If you were a SEFSD club member in 2012, you can rejoin us for 2013 without signing any forms, making any photocopies or licking any stamps!

 

 

As long as you have a valid AMA membership for this year, simply refresh your information below and use your credit card or Pay Pal balance to pay. We’ll confirm your AMA standing and mail you a laminated membership badge. It’s that easy!

 

 

Questions?    Membership Mike can be reached at:   magneto.mike@gmail.com

 
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Click here to read the 2013 SEFSD Club Field Rules.
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Renewing members: Click here to read the 2013 Mission Bay Waiver.

 
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Mailing address for Application/Waiver forms and (or) if you would like to pay by check:

 

SEFSD Membership
2246 Soto Street
San Diego, CA  92107
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Something Stinks!

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By Steve Neu,

 

SEFSD has had a long standing policy at the Mission Bay site of no smoking—-but it seems as if it is time again to remind members. While some people are not bothered by second hand smoke we have some that are very sensitive. The club rules and common sense would suggest that members don’t smoke in or near the pit areas. If you must smoke please do so in a area that is well down wind of others that may be affected. Also very careful with matches and smoking materials as the brush and weeds are quite dry and can burn easily.

In addition to smoking we need to also be aware of the smell of running generators and idling car engines for purposes of charging batteries. The smell often will affect your fellow fliers downwind—please place generators so the exhaust does not drift down pit row and don’t leave your car engine idling for long periods of time.

No SMoking

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The Prez’ Sez’ for July/August ’13

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Frank at Meeting322 and counting………………………That’s the number of members to date. Why the growth?  Well, for one, the hard work done by members of the club to make the SEFSD a premier electric flying site.  Another is the overall good attitude of the membership towards guests and potential members.  Are we perfect?  Not by a long shot, but NO CLUB IS…………….As the club grows, so does the complexity of keeping as many members happy as possible.  Again, do succeed?  Not always………………But we continue to try….

 

A genuine “Thank You” to those who attended the meeting on the 23rd at Padre Gold. Much was discussed and much accomplished. To begin, we the SEFSD will participate in the National Model Aviation Day event on Aug. 17th. We hope to invite Wounded Warriors in the San Diego area to a day at the field complete with FPV flights for guests, Mentor Trainers, food (Courtesy of Chef Attaway) and for this event we will be asking all members to donate $10 towards the Wounded Warrior Program and the club will match the total collected up to $1000. As a career Marine who has seen the horrors of war, this is REALLY close to my heart!….

 

Soon you will see a new and improved fence at the field. Chief Griffin has agreed to help with this much needed project.

 

The Heli Day at the Bay was discussed and the date is set for Oct 11-13  Friday thru Sunday. Saturday and Sunday are Rotor Craft Only……No fixed wing birds………….

 

A discussion regarding the indoor flying venue has prompted me to poll the membership as to the viability of continuing. The responses for those that were at the meeting via e-mail have been all very positive, but I want to give you all a chance to voice your opinion, therefore your e-mail to me at jazzdrmr@gmail.com will be read and answered.

 

A great show n’ tell by Steve Neu, Otto Diffenbach and Steve Belknap was followed by a raffle that offered gift certificates to Discount Hobby Warehouse……Courtesy of John Weaver and the SEFSD……….All in all, a good meeting……..Wish you were there!

 

Semper Fi,

Frank

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Electroglide Report for July ’13

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Jeff Struthers took the clock to the max during round 1 with a 9:57, a mere 3 seconds from being over, then he parked it on the 20 point circle for a fantastic 78 points.  Jeff did exceptionally well as Jim Shelton was in a thermal lift that was no place near where Jeff was,  and when Jim made the decision to land,  Jeff simply held on to that little whisper of lift coming from the Palm Trees to get the last man up status. What is equally impressive, is that Jeff followed up with the longest flight during round 4 at 9:30, but he missed the landing points and that was the nail in the coffin….
 
Tom Erickson was the top points contender for Radian class, with consistent good times and bonus landing points in every round.
Tom’s first round was at 9:37 and 20,  so he was the one to watch as even when the flight times dropped in the following rounds,  he hit the target every time,  getting bonus points each round.  That was the kicker that gave him the edge over Jeff’s full clock runs.
 
Open class only had 2 competitors,  Jim Shelton and John Forrester.  It was nice to see John at the field,  he had been away for a several weeks with reasons that kept him from the field.  Jim was consistantly getting long clock runs and landing points in all but 1 round,  netting him the highest score of the day.  Its evident that he has really started to get into the groove with his Hyper, flying on 2 cells.  John managed to get the Lucky Dog 3 of the 4 rounds!  I’m thinking we need to get him a “Lucky Dog” shirt, or maybe a collar!
 
Scores for Radian:
Tom Erickson                       205
Jeff Struthers                       200
Norm Arndt                         192
Bill Graham                          182
Ray Fulks                             179
 
Scores for Open:
Jim Shelton                          265
John Forrester                       66
 
Next month,   more of the finest loitering in sunny San Diego,  the 3rd Saturday is Aug, 17.  Hope to see you there.

July F5B/D Day SEFSD

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The usual suspects from the local area were out along with Lenny Keer from Colorado. Lenny is what you might say is dedicated to these planes since he makes the monthly road trip with his wife every month to San Diego. We also had a visit from a legend of modeling Larry Jolly—looking  things over. Sounds like he will be back in the near future to play with some fast planes!

As for flying with the F5B gliders  the weather which was fairly cool for the middle of July with calm winds made for near perfect conditions for turning in very good lap counts in distance. The scores for the most part were in the 48-51 bases—with yours truly getting the 51 base score. Of course there were the usual comedy routines—the best was provided by Jeff Keesaman when he managed to miss a third of the  turns at the far pylon on his first flight.

We had Don Corum, of the local top heli pilots took up my offer and flew my high powered F5B “rental” –he also looked over the F5D planes and it looks like may have another  local joining us soon.

 As usual Steve and Michelle Manganelli looked up into the sky and pressed buttons for the afternoon–many thanks for their efforts! Most here might not know it but Steve and Michelle will be running a F5B World Cup contest in Hawaii in September. We will have a three day contest with pilots from Australia, Japan USA, Russia, Switzerland and Italy in attendance. The idea was first proposed by one of our Japanese friends at the last World Champs in Romania. After a series of F5B events in Eastern Europe a venue like Hawaii seems like paradise! We worked with the FAI and AMA  and the local club in Hawaii to make this possible!

The Future of RC – Autonomous Flight

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Since November of 2012 when I ventured into amateur UAV’s it’s been quite the adventure as you know. At this point I’m pretty well versed in the Arduplane system made by the DIYDrones Community. The same one that is being sold on Hobby King for $75. I’m to the point where I’ve now listed Arduplane and Ardupilot as a skill on my Resume and LinkedIn. Now that I have a firm grasp on what it takes from nothing to autonomous landing I can help share that with others and guide them in the right direction. To give an idea this last airframe took about 2 hours of logged flight time to tune in for autonomous control. Since the autonomous ban was lifted at SEFSD that tuning was done in the SEFSD airspace over the course of a week. On Saturday the system was sent on a successful 1.3km test flight at ‘Area 51’. Based on data collected from that flight I’ll be returning to SEFSD for a performance verification and return to ‘Area 51’ for a 2.5km flight. This makes the 3rd aircraft that I’ve successfully tuned for autonomous flight.

 

    Already a handful of our own SEFSD members have already began to reach out to me as a resource to help them tune their vehicles after seeing mine perform. I now know of 5 folks out at the field that are gearing toward autonomous flight. Please feel free to refer any of our members looking to do anything ArduPilot related over to me as needed. We need to continue to work with members and come up with a qualification system for Autonomous flight, much like you have to qualify to fly FPV according to the AMA. If you’d like I can come up with a rough draft and take the lead on that task. I will even go as far as doing a workshop at a membership meeting for folks that want to learn more or tune their Arduplane setup.

 

    Autonomous can exist within our airspace and it’s important that we stress to these members to keep their crafts within the box. If anyone wants to go outside the box have them talk to Jim or I and we can refer them to some airspace not to far from the field where they can fly as far as they want. I’m more worried about way points being set outside the SEFSD airspace than vehicles flying away. Again need to make sure ALL modelers keep their vehicles away from Sea World (Drive/Parking) and Fiesta Island -period-.

 

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. We ARE a Gold Leader Club. We should take this opportunity to help guide future autonomous modelers in our community toward safe operation of their vehicles by offering them a safe and controlled area to fly in. As we grow in this aspect of the hobby we should provide feedback to the AMA so they can better guide modelers on the usage.

 

    One thing we have to keep in mind about UAS is the “S” part. The whole setup is a System and the human in the loop is part of that System. Many legislators around the world are making sure it stays that way. Folks should check out the SUAS ARC recommendations sent over to the AMA. If you want to know why the AMA all of a sudden changed their rules in 2010 this is why. The AMA released about an eighth of what is contained in the actual document. Historically speaking there is a 80% chance the FAA will accept the ARC’s recommendations. The AMA is our CBO so we’re held in accordance with the rules the AMA publishes for our activities. In this case SC560.

 

http://www.modelaircraft.org/faa/recommendations.pdf

BOD Minutes for July 2013

Meeting Minutes Old Site Posts

 

Old business:

 

Gold Leader program report by Frank. Made a visit to Boy Scouts at Camp Mataguay. Had a very good reception. Steve B took lots of  pictures. Should help for next year’s  program Gold Leader application with AMA.

 

Jim B talked about his visit to High Tech High and the activities. He made a presentation on RC equipment and how the components work.

 

Need to revisit Gold Leader in September to make sure we have everything needed for next years application.

 

PaulG PayPal update –it is up and running and all seems to be working well. Showed the printout and how it works. Discussed what action if any we should take to offset the added costs related to accepting PayPal. M. Neale brought up the fact that the costs could range up to $400/year depending o how many members use the service.

 

Jim B autonomous flight report. Reported on activities at the field. Tim talked about “area 51″and what the field looks like and a free flight event. Discussed some UAV tests he saw at the of a X8.  Jim reports that there were autonomous flights at SEFSD. FrankG discussed his views on autonomous activities stating that while he is not opposed to operations that stay with in the field boundaries it is his view that the filed is too small for such operations.

 

Discussed rotor days at the bay and sponsors, costs and raffle prizes. SteveN presented a outline of what needs to be taken care of prior to the event. Discussed what events would be run as well as sponsors and personal involved. Approved up to $300 for getting raffle prizes for event. Motion made and approved. FrankG will arrange for raffle prizes with Discount Hobbies. Discussed the need first aid kit for trailer before rotor event. Discussed getting fire extinguishers for rotor event.

 

Safety report by Chuck reported that hovering over the runway is becoming a problem as reported by a club member. Frank discussed flight issues he has seen at the field.  Frank said that the runway must be kept clear–no hovering for expended periods on the runway. The same no hovering rule apply to all types of “hovering”–helicopters, multicopters and fixed wing. In addition there was a discussion regarding a runway incident between two members. FrankG, JimB and SteveN all provided input. FrankG is talking to the parties involved to try and resolve things.

 

Runway condition report by JimB–all OK

 

PaulG report–we still have money! Passed out copy of treasurers report for review.

 

EMAC discussion by Tim–will  hold event on the 27th as scheduled.  Will see how things work out and see if we should host more events. There seems to be a problem in contacting Jeffery Kuehn—he has the scoring computer.  Mike N said that we need to hold events as scheduled.

 

FrankG discussed Wounded Warrior program.  TimA moved that club match any member donations on the flying on the 17th of August. Tim will run hot dog roast at the event. Try to get the word out to members to attend.

 

Discussed indoor flying and if we should continue supporting the activity. Jim said that some people flying at  Mission Bay think there is little value to them. PaulG says we are due for a payment in August. Will ask if another day than Friday can be scheduled for next year since many people have other activities on Friday evenings.

 

Newsletter–still have one

 

Discussed trailer storage.–JimB will explore other storage options closer to the field and report back at the next meeting

 

Discussed possible added class to electro glide–Jim will review the proposed rules.

 

Fence proposal from Tim to redo the fence with chain link. Will take a look at options and discuss at future meetings. Costs expected to be between $2000-3000 depending on type of material.

 

Parking lot plan from TimA. WIll explore getting the ruts fixed. Cost est. to be $4000 if we pay for it. If we wait the city might do it at no cost when grindings become available.

 

Any other business–none

 

Next meeting the 21st of August 7pm

Fire and Shop Safety

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The following is from a member of a different RC club, not in San Diego:

 

Burnt Barn“I am fortunate to have a 20 by 30 foot workshop on the second floor of a barn.   It is a great place to work and build.   I was refinishing a piece of furniture using Watco Danish Oil last Wednesday evening.  It was quite hot and my air conditioner was not working well.  I threw the rag I was using into the trash and shut everything down at 9:30 p.m..  By 6:50 a.m. the next morning fire was bursting out of the second floor window. ??I lost everything in the workshop.  (I do have insurance so most will be restored) ??Cause of fire:

    •    High ambient temperature (above 90 degrees)
    •    Stagnant air (fans were off)
    •    Crumpled up oily rag
    •    Plastic Garbage can.

?Please be wary, this stuff really happens.  I have been using this product for 30 years without a problem, but when the right (or wrong) conditions exist you can loose your workshop or house! ???there were 28 models, 9 kits and bags of electronics plus a full array of woodworking tool all gone.”

 

 

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Fire and Shop Safety

Old Site Posts Safety

The following is from a member of a different RC club, not in San Diego:

 

“I am fortunate to have a 20 by 30 foot workshop on the second floor of a barn.   It is a great place to work and build.   I was refinishing a piece of furniture using Watco Danish Oil last Wednesday evening.  It was quite hot and my air conditioner was not working well.  I threw the rag I was using into the trash and shut everything down at 9:30 p.m..  By 6:50 a.m. the next morning fire was bursting out of the second floor window. ??I lost everything in the workshop.  (I do have insurance so most will be restored) ??Cause of fire:

    •    High ambient temperature (above 90 degrees)
    •    Stagnant air (fans were off)
    •    Crumpled up oily rag
    •    Plastic Garbage can.

?Please be wary, this stuff really happens.  I have been using this product for 30 years without a problem, but when the right (or wrong) conditions exist you can loose your workshop or house! ???there were 28 models, 9 kits and bags of electronics plus a full array of woodworking tool all gone.”

 

 

July F5B/D Day SEFSD

F5B Pilots & Planes

By Steve Neu,

Steve Manganelli in front of the planes getting ready to fly

July F5B 2013

This last Sunday afternoon SEFSD hosted the July edition of F5B/D Day at the Bay. Bruce Brown put in several flight with his Avionik D05 F5D plane. If you have not seen a F5D racer before it is truly impressive to see a 2 lb model run at speeds of upwards of 200mph–then glide in for a smooth landing at 25mph! Not too many planes have such a wide speed range!

The usual suspects from the local area were out along with Lenny Keer from Colorado. Lenny is what you might say is dedicated to these planes since he makes the monthly road trip with his wife every month to San Diego. We also had a visit from a legend of modeling Larry Jolly—looking things over. Sounds like he will be back in the near future to play with some fast planes!

As for flying with the F5B gliders the weather which was fairly cool for the middle of July with calm winds made for near perfect conditions for turning in very good lap counts in distance. The scores for the most part were in the 48-51 bases—with yours truly getting the 51 base score. Of course there were the usual comedy routines—the best was provided by Jeff Keesaman when he managed to miss a third of the turns at the far pylon on his first flight.

We had Don Corum, of the local top heli pilots took up my offer and flew my high powered F5B “rental” –he also looked over the F5D planes and it looks like may have another local joining us soon.

As usual Steve and Michelle Manganelli looked up into the sky and pressed buttons for the afternoon–many thanks for their efforts! Most here might not know it but Steve and Michelle will be running a F5B World Cup contest in Hawaii in September. We will have a three day contest with pilots from Australia, Japan USA, Russia, Switzerland and Italy in attendance. The idea was first proposed by one of our Japanese friends at the last World Champs in Romania. After a series of F5B events in Eastern Europe a venue like Hawaii seems like paradise! We worked with the FAI and AMA and the local club in Hawaii to make this possible!